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Point-Counterpoint:  Old School vs.
New School--Is There Really A Choice?--(Jan 6, 2001)

Two very interesting articles today, one in the San Bernardino County Sun by Paul Oberjuerge, the paper's sports editorand the other, a contrasting view, in today's Los Angeles Times, written by prep sports editor Eric Sondheimer.  Do these guys talk to each other before they come up with their columns?  Seems so....and even if they didn't, the irony is that they wrote about the same subject on the same day from slightly differing perspectives, affording us the opportunity to examine the underlying premise contained in each piece,  i.e., what exactly is the role of "big-time" sports at the high school level, and is there really any place for it within, as Eric Sondheimer calls it, "the system?" 

While Mr. Oberjuerge's story about San Bernardino Eisenhower, ranked as the No. 1 team in the county and on the verge of becoming a national power, is a bit tongue in cheek (including the reference to "breathless mentions in socalhoops.com."---hey, we've never been "breathless" at least not that we know of....),  he concedes that there really are two different levels of high school sports, i.e., the "old way" of games at the neighborhood school's local gym, a local tournament or two, high school cheerleaders, parents and fans watching games at home, and the "new" way, the one in which high school teams turn into traveling road-shows, playing "against People From Anywhere But Here."

It's the latter, the "big-time"  that Mr. Sondheimer rails against, and for the all but the most cynical of parents, teachers, fans, and high school coaches, it's hard to argue against the fact that there just seems to be something palpably wrong with the concept that players in their high school years should move from school to school for reasons which seem to have nothing to do with academics, and instead revolve around athletics....But the perception these days, which some would argue is more than just perception, i.e., the reality, is that if a player even wants to be considered as a walk-on at a Division I program (forget about discussing how to become one of the rare scholarship players...if you even have to ask about transferring, then you really don't get "it"), that player had better play for a high-profile program, one where kids are put under intense game pressure, playing not just against the kids over at the next school in the same suburb (who they are expected to crush when required to play them in something as quaint as a "league" game), but against the best there is, wherever the "best" may happen to be.

The perception that only the "best" competition will truly prepare a player and a team, isn't new, and it's certainly not a view that is dispelled quickly by any NCAA Division I coach or recruiter.   College coaches (who according to the NABC now want to be called "teacher-coaches") are always looking for bigger, better, stronger, and faster players, and many don't care whether a player just manages to meet NCAA minimum freshman eligibility or whether he's got a 4.5 GPA and a 1300 SAT.    "Can he defend?"  "Can he help me win, now?"  "Is he big enough, fast enough?"  "Will he get me fired?"   Unfortunately, these are the questions that are most often asked, and if the truth be told, it's the colleges and universities, particularly the "big time" programs, with high-salaried coaches, who have turned college sports into a breeding ground for the pros, and the trickle down effect has been seen in high school athletics for the past decade. When a college coach is making more than a  medical doctor, or a garbage collector, or a judge, or nurse, or you name it, is it any wonder that, we see what we see at the high school level?  Aided by changes in the educational system, including open enrollment and what many would call their right in a free society to exercise their choice in which school to attend, why not "go for it"?    

If little Johnny or Susie wants to be a concert violinist, then why not go to a school that will foster that goal,  and help make it a reality, rather than stay at a school which has a terrible orchestra, or an erratic music program, and which won't help Johnny or Susie achieve their goal?    If Bobby or Debbie want to become chemists, doesn't it make sense to find a school that will help them achieve that, rather than staying at a school which has a barely functioning chemistry lab? Why not indeed....If a player wants to play college football, is there really any truth to the view that playing in a bigger and better program than the one at Harvard-Westlake will help the player achieve his goal?  Will it matter in the long run? Do college coaches really look only at big-time programs for big-time players?   Mr. Sondheimer would argue "No, if a player is good enough, it doesn't matter where he goes to school," and for a certain level of athlete, the Casey Jacobsens (ok, bad example, his family moved him too, right?) or the Gilbert Arenases of the world, that's probably true... But try telling that to the kid who is toiling in a program which never goes anywhere, never gets to the playoffs, or is a perennial doormat.  This same kid may want to extend his playing career beyond high school, and everyone he talks to, from high school coaches, to college coaches will tell him that "big time is big time" and if he wants to play for them, he'd better "get serious."   "Want to play at the next level?"   they ask.   " Then you'd better act like it now!".  

Right or wrong, perceived or imagined, that's the way things seem to have developed.  But don't blame the kids.   Don't blame the parents, and don't blame the high school coaches who happen to accept a kid who enrolls at their high school.  They're not alone, and they didn't necessarily create the "system".  Blame the NCAA if you want to blame anyone, and blame a culture that glorifies professional athletes, who "earn" salaries that are so disproportionate to anything bearing a resemblance to anything that provides any socially redeeming value, that it ought to be a national joke....instead it's going to be our national tragedy, a legacy of kids left with disillusionment and frustrated and angry parents, who "act out" on the courts and hockey fields, an eventually, like the guy who "acted in self-defense" finally succumb to the madness and kill someone because little Johnny got bumped during a "skate-around." 

If this is what it's come to, then we all ought to be ashamed, and we all ought to look in the mirror.  And to the extent that Mr. Oberjuerge even jokes about "breathless mentions in socalhoops.com," implying that we've become a part of the problem, we want to say, in all seriousness, that aside from writing about scores of games and players, that we've cautioned for years against the over-glorification of athletics over academics.   Division I is not for everyone, in fact it's for just a few;  there's far more to life after high school for most athletes, including Division II, III, NAIA and   JUCO.....For everyone, the ball eventually stops bouncing.  The degree, for all but the few, is where it's at.

Mr. Sondheimer's piece focuses on two players, one an outgoing transfer (well, he's leaving Harvard-Westlake in Studio City for Muir in Pasadena), and another who has transferred from Tennessee to Montclair Prep, a school located in Van Nuys which has had its share problems over the years involving transfers for athletic reasons.  Sondheimer concludes that transfers are a problem, one that "compromise the integrity of sport."  Oberjuerge, on the other hand,  somewhat tongue in cheek, is at least willing to recognize the new reality for what it is. And perhaps these two pieces have more in common than not.... Decide for yourselves. Here are the two pieces, side by side (we've linked to them so you can check the originals....)

Ike travels the road to success

San Bernardino County Sun
By Paul Oberjuerge
Jan 6, 2002

LYNWOOD-- It takes some getting used to, for sure.

Prep basketball as traveling road show. Barnstorming across the state. In San Luis Obispo today, San Diego next week, Lynwood the week after.

Home games? For saps. For small-timers. Nonleague games against the next town over? So last century. Utterly retro.

Eisenhower High School's Eagles, the best team in San Bernardino County, took another of their road trips Saturday, and this one didn't even involve a hotel.

Ike went to Lynwood High School for something dubbed the Hoop Challenge to play someone named Modesto Christian.

It was the latest, and last, of the Eagles' games against People From Anywhere But Here.

Ike has played 15 games, winning 13 of them, and only one was in this county Friday, at home, vs. Etiwanda.

The rest of the season, Ike has been on the road. Cathedral City's tournament was the short trip. The others involved registering at the front desk.

Frankly, that's how you do things in high school basketball these days if you aspire to attention and rankings. Regional, state, national. The guys who sit home, stay home. The serious programs get up and go.

Eisenhower is as serious a program as we have in the county, and coach Steve Johnson understands how this all works.

You make trips, you play teams with reputations and pedigrees, you keep the kids interested. You keep them from transferring. Maybe you even find yourself with a 6-6 transfer or two who likes bus rides and breathless mentions in socalhoops.com.

Pacific, A.B. Miller, Fontana, Upland ... these are county schools that have dabbled in Big-Time Basketball, but Ike is pretty much out there alone just now. Using the nonleague schedule as a tool to sharpen your guys for the playoffs six weeks hence and to showcase them for recruiters (and each other).

Most area schools still think the San Bernardino Kiwanis Tournament is a big deal, but not Ike. They have outgrown it. Long Beach Poly does not play the Kiwanis. Neither does Crenshaw, Fort Lauderdale Dillard nor Modesto Christian, runner-up to Mater Dei for the state large-schools title last season (and 64-53 Eisenhower victim Saturday night).

Ike has played all of those teams, and others of rare and exotic breeding. Dominguez played at Lynwood before Ike did Saturday. Crenshaw and Concord De La Salle played afterward. Those are heavy hitters.

On the practical level, Ike's Traveling Show should prepare the Eagles for the playoffs; this program is very up-front abouts its aspirations. "Our goal is to win a CIF title, and anything less would be a disappointment," said senior forward Johnny Dukes.

On the other hand, it's prep basketball of a sort not everyone yet understands.

Most every school plays a tournament somewhere, but it usually is nearby. And then most of your teams have four, five, six games divided between home and a reasonably short road trip. Like, an afternoon.

That's how it used to be done. That's how it still is done by schools who will be ushered out of the postseason before the quarterfinals.

Is this new way good or bad? Neither. It's just different. And it is cutting edge.

Fans, friends, parents aren't going to be able to see their team for a month or two. Cheerleaders have no reason to exist, because the team is never home. But the merry hoopsters are going to get inside of gyms hundreds of miles from home, play a level of competition they would be hard-pressed to find locally, and maybe they get one more look-see from a recruiter.

The Eagles may go even further afield a year from now; Johnson aspires to play in a big tournament in Oregon, the one perennial national power Oak Hill just won. He thinks they might wangle an invitation, and Ike can go play another four or five teams most of us have never heard of while Redlands plays Cajon.

Eisenhower now begins Citrus Belt League play. The Eagles are trapped into 10 consecutive games inside the county, home-and-home with Redlands East Valley, A.B. Miller, Redlands, Rialto, Fontana.

If Ike tears through those guys like Sherman through Georgia, and storms into the CIF title game at The Pond, everything Johnson & Co. have done is vindicated.

Even if they stumble, to an A.B. Miller or in the playoffs, it's hard to argue against the Eisenhower Method. The Eagles won zero CIF titles doing it the old way. They are going to try it the way The Big Kids do it, thank you, and in a couple of months we will know whether the end justifies the means.

Oberjuerge is sports editor of The Sun. Readers may write him at 399 North D St., San Bernardino, 92401, or e-mail to paul.oberjuerge@sbsun.com

  These Transfers Compromise Integrity of Sport

Los Angeles Times
By Eric Sondheimer
Jan 6, 2002

A three-year starting quarterback has decided to transfer from North Hollywood Harvard-Westlake to Pasadena Muir, which, academically, is like going from Harvard to Cal State Northridge.

Harvard-Westlake is a private school with student SAT averages above 1,300. Muir is a public school in which 75% of ninth graders who took the state high school exit exam last spring failed the math portion.

And yet no one so much as blinks when an athlete like Richard Irvin makes such a move. No disrespect intended toward Muir, but it's a safe bet that he isn't transferring for academic reasons.

He has been Harvard-Westlake's starting quarterback since late in his freshman season. In the last two years, the Wolverines' record is 2-17. So what if he has been at the school since seventh grade? So what if he's leaving behind friends and teammates? His senior year is coming up, he wants to play college football, and he has concluded Muir offers a better athletic opportunity.

"The point of leaving is so my youngster can maximize his desires," said Irvin's mother, Helene.

Irvin, who's 6 feet 2, lives in Santa Monica but will commute to Pasadena with his father, who works in the area. He knows the program because his private quarterback coach, Steve Clarkson, is friends with Muir Coach Ron Mims. Another of Clarkson's private pupils, Ryan O'Hara, transferred to Muir last season from Monrovia.

Clarkson said he never told Irvin to transfer. "I don't tell a kid to leave or stay," he said. "I'm not their parent."

He said Irvin also sought information on Crescenta Valley, Mission Viejo, Huntington Beach Edison, Granada Hills and Westlake Village Oaks Christian.

Irvin's mother said she believes Harvard-Westlake's football team has deteriorated to the point her son has little confidence in the program succeeding. This week, the Wolverines didn't retain second-year Coach Chris Johnson and replaced him with freshman coach Greg Gonzalez.

Whether Irvin stayed or left, he has a better chance of making it to a top university with a good football team based on his intelligence and friendly personality than his playing skills.

Athletic scholarships are awarded on talent and individual ability, not on how a team performs. Playing at Muir doesn't mean he's suddenly going to move up in a recruiter's quarterback ratings.

O'Hara transferred to Muir and got a scholarship to Arizona, but he was recruited early--before he even played in a game for the Mustangs. Nothing he did this season at Muir influenced Arizona's decision.

Clarkson said Irvin is not a can't-miss college prospect.

"He's going to have to show somebody he can play football," he said.

The more important--and baffling--question is why parents repeatedly make decisions to let their sons and daughters transfer based on athletic reasons.

Irvin is the fourth high-profile quarterback in the last two years to transfer entering their senior year, joining O'Hara, Erik Vose and Rick Clausen--all Clarkson clients. Vose, Clausen and O'Hara all took the drastic step of changing residences to gain their eligibility. All had different reasons for needing to transfer.

Let's hope Irvin does well, because a diploma from Muir is not going to have the same impact on college admission officers as one from
Harvard-Westlake.

The transfer game is also being played out at Van Nuys Montclair Prep. Ten years ago, the school received one of the harshest punishments ever from the Southern Section. The entire athletic program was put on probation and every team was barred from participating in the playoffs during the 1991-92 season for recruiting violations by the football program.

You'd think the Mounties would have learned something from their ordeal. But look what's happening with the boys' basketball program.
They're getting so many transfers that Athletic Director Greg Reece might need to hire an FBI agent to help verify birth certificates and passports.

Last season, the Mounties got tall transfers from Yugoslavia, Cameroon and Germany. Last month, 6-8 junior Nick Stigger[sic] from Memphis, Tenn., checked in.

Reece said he'll determine this week whether Stigger is eligible to play for the Mounties.

Newspaper reports out of Memphis said Stigger left to improve his academic standing. He was averaging 20.8 points for Hillcrest High. Maybe all these players just found their way to Montclair Prep because they heard Mounties Coach Tyrone Fuller is a bright, energetic young coach.

Whatever the reason, Fuller is just doing what most coaches do--welcome transfer students with open arms. And that's the problem. Rarely does anyone say no to a transfer student. At some point, though, there's going to be a revolt. And there should be. How many transfers is it going to take before players and parents say enough? How many home-grown players are going to have to lose their starting positions before someone challenges a coach or principal?

The integrity of high school sports is being compromised again and again by individuals determined to manipulate the system for selfish means.

It's up to coaches like Don Loperena of North Hills Monroe to help save the system. He's a basketball coach who knows what his priority is--teaching.

"I have always believed that those who can't coach, recruit," he said. "It depresses me to see coaches with such poor self-worth. It's as if their self esteem is derived from their win-loss record rather than their ability to develop our youth into hard-working, proud, ethical young men.

"I believe that character is built when the odds are stacked against you. It is for this reason that I welcome the challenges that most ethical coaches  face--how to compete with what you have. Programs that win year in and year out do so with kids who are used to being recognized as winners and stars.

"Those coaches will never know the feeling of winning with a team of players that have never been recognized as either."

Eric Sondheimer can be reached at eric.sondheimer@latimes.com

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